Today I am welcoming Dr. Laura Markham, creator of Aha!Parenting and author of the new book Peaceful Parent, Happy Kids to the Blog with answers to questions from our community members. Dr. Laura is talking about how to tackle Discipline Differences Between Parents, Dealing with Defiance, Moving beyond Power Struggles, Telling the Truth About Santa Clause, Sibling Harmony and Sibling Competition and What to do when Tempers Flare! This post is packed full of excellent information and ideas for peaceful, positive minded parents!!
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Telling the Truth About Santa Clause
From Jennifer:
Suggestions on how to talk to my inquisitive ~ 4 yr old about Santa. We always try to be as honest as possible/appropriate with her. I would like her to be able to enjoy the fantasy without lying to her or feeding her inconsistent information. We’ve told her that fairies, witches, giants, etc are all from the land of make believe and live in our imaginations, but thus far we’ve said Santa and the Easter bunny are real. I feel uncomfortable with the dishonesty and am challenged with how to answer all her questions: Is that a costume or is that really Santa, why is Santa in so many places, how does he get all the toys, etc. is there a way to group him with the other make believe characters, yet still allow her the fun and fantasy of Xmas?
I don’t think there is anything wrong with having allowed your daughter to believe in the fantasy of Santa Claus. Now that she is four, however, she is beginning to realize that the story isn’t realistic. So you definitely don’t want to be in the position of lying to her, because when she finds out that you lied – even recently – when she asked you, that will be more of a betrayal to her.
When your daughter asks you these questions, your first answer can always be a question: “What do you think?” Most kids will have an answer, like “Santa can’t be everywhere at once so he has helpers who wear Santa costumes.” As long as your daughter is coming up with those answers, then she doesn’t want to know the truth that an actual Santa does not exist. You can simply nod, and say something like “That makes sense.”
If, on the other hand, your daughter keeps pushing you to tell her whether Santa is “real” then she probably really wants to know. You can say something like this: “Santa Claus was a Saint named Nicholas who lived long ago and helped people in need…Whenever we love and give, we are living the spirit of Santa, and being Santas ourselves…I do believe in Santa, because I believe that his spirit is alive in each of us, and we keep that spirit alive by being generous to others….So the Santas who are in the stores in costume are people who are acting as Santa that day, being loving and generous…. But there is no one Santa, because that is too big a job for any one person.”
If she responds with tears, that’s okay. She’s allowed to grieve. When she’s done crying, you can tell her that now she can be a Santa herself, and help others be joyful by living the spirit of Santa. Would she like to help you find and wrap a present for a child whose family doesn’t have any money for presents this year? Most children love the idea that they, too, can be “Santa” – because it keeps the magic alive for them, if in a different form.
Discipline Differences Between Parents
From Amy:
I need some wisdom on how to handle the differences my husband and I have regarding parenting and discipline. He feels that we are doing them a disservice if there are never any punitive measures taken for their “defiance”. I don’t want to nag him or demand that he see things my way. How do we get on the same page?
You say that you don’t want to nag your husband or demand that he see things your way. I think that’s a good place to start, so your husband can make his own decision. No one likes to feel forced. You can listen to him, ask about his views, and explain yours.
You might start from the premise that both you and your husband adore your kids and want what’s best for them, but you disagree on what kind of parenting will help them thrive and grow up into responsible, considerate, happy people. Then, in a series of discussions, explore with your husband what he thinks will best accomplish that objective.
I imagine your husband thinks that kids should be taught to be respectful, rather than defiant, by punishment if necessary. I imagine you think, as I do, that kids will act respectfully toward others if they’re treated with respect, and that defiance is a symptom that the child feels disconnected from the parent. You don’t have to prove you’re right, nor does your husband. You just have to listen to each other and consider each other’s perspective. You don’t have to agree with him to understand his concerns.
You might ask your husband about his fears, because fear is what drives most of our parenting disagreements. For instance, if your child is defiant, one choice is to punish him. Or, you can realize that your child must be very upset and feel very alone to act that way, and you can use the opportunity to have a real discussion with your child about why he is so upset that he needs to treat you disrespectfully, which of course you would not do to him. If you pose these two approaches to your husband, he will probably think that punishment is the best approach. Share your fear with your husband that this will drive your child further away and make him more defiant. Then ask him about the alternative approach. What is his fear with that approach? That if your child is not punished, he will think he can get away with defiance? Let your husband express his fears. Point out that if your child feels understood, he has no reason to be defiant.
You might also ask your husband about his own childhood. Did he feel heard? Did he feel close to his parents, supported, respected? Did he talk with them growing up, seek their advice? Often, our own childhoods shape our reactions to our children, unless we have the opportunity to realize that we want something different for our kids.
Finally, you might explore with your husband his view of his kids. I am sure they aren’t perfect, but I am also sure they are not bad kids. If you can explain your child’s point of view to him, your husband might realize for the first time that his child’s “bad” behavior is actually a cry for help (as is true for all kids.) You can point out that punishment would not give his child the necessary help, and would further drive his child away, thus provoking more bad behavior. I think parents only begin to understand this once they really see things from their child’s perspective.
While it is not ideal, you and your husband can parent your children somewhat differently. But as you continue to set limits with empathy, I suspect that your husband will see the difference and will be won over. I have heard from many mothers that their husband watches them handle some explosive situation with their child with empathy, which defuses the situation, and their husband says some version of “Okay, I’m sold; Show me how to do that.” I hope at some point your husband will watch you parenting and realize it works a lot better than yelling and punishing. Good luck!
Sibling Harmony and Sibling Competition
From Nora:
Hello! I have a 6 year old daughter and a 5.5 year old son, and a 20 mo toddler. Even though the two older kids are only eight months apart, they enjoy each other much of the time and can play well together. They have a really tough time playing games, though. Card games, board games, tag, softball, whatever competitive effort we try ends in someone crying and melting down under the stress of losing, or even the potential for losing. We’ve done all we can to ease the stress, focused on mostly community games, talked about team work, and exhausted our parenting repertoire. Do you have any suggestions? I’m wishing that we could navigate this with more dignity and grace as a family. I remember playing “Mother May I” as a kid and loving it. I want my kids to be able to as well!
Competition is tough on kids. ALL kids have a hard time learning to deal with losing. I think a certain amount of upset about losing is to be expected, and honored. As long as you empathize, and as long as a particular child isn’t always losing, the experience of losing, and learning that life goes on and the sun comes out again, is actually a good one for kids. It builds resilience. One helpful rule is that the winner always has to clean up the game, which is at least some consolation prize for loser. And of course you want to emphasize that the fun is in the playing, not in the winning.
However, there is a way to help kids with these feelings. Be playful with them about competition and winning and losing. So when you play a game with them, moan every time you roll the dice and don’t get the number you want. Moan when someone else does well. Moan when you lose the game. (Make sure you always lose the game.) Be sure you do this in a way that gets your kids laughing, not feeling guilty that you lost. This will let your kids giggle a lot about someone else losing, which helps them vent their own anxiety and fears about losing. It is also good for them to have the experience of winning, since so often in their lives, they feel like they’re losing. You’ll find lots of specific ideas about playful games to address this specific issue in Lawrence Cohen’s Playful Parenting.
I should add that kids are more competitive in general when they feel more rivalry for their parents. If you can spend one-on-one time with each child on a regular basis, just pouring your love into them, you’ll find it will diminish their competitiveness.
Differences Between Parents & What to do when Tempers Flare
From Heather:
My question is more about how spouses can work together to help each other be a peaceful parent. We both agree with gentle discipline and peaceful, attachment-type parenting so that is not the problem. We also want to help each other stay on track and not fall into the authoritarian-type upbringing that we both had. But we have had a few situations when, in the height of a disagreement with our daughter, the spouse has taken over the situation, undermined the other parent.
Here is an example:
One DD (3) is pulling on the new hat of her younger sister (1.5) and the younger sister is yelling for her to stop and about to be pulled down. Mom steps in and calmly asks DD to stop and states why. DD does not. Mother asks again for her to stop. DD does not. So, after a long day and many similar situations throughout the day and because sister is now howling and has fallen to her knees, mom snatches DD’s (also new) hat off her head and takes it away and puts it up on a high shelf. Mom lost her cool. She states DD can’t have the hat until they talk. DD lets go of sister’s hat and follows mom, howling that she wants her hat. Husband comes in, takes the hat off the shelf, says “we” will give it back to her and then we will talk. Gets in between mom and DD and takes over talking to DD. DD takes her hat, walks away, doesn’t listen or talk.
In this situation, I understand that mom was wrong to take the hat. Dad sees that mom is wrong. But how should he have handled the situation? How could he have supported mom in calming down without undermining her?
Great question! Some general guidelines:
1. When tempers flare, one spouse can say “Let’s everybody stay calm now and listen to each other.” Then the spouse who is losing it (or has lost it) can receive the reminder to stay calm without feeling attacked.
2. When one spouse is handling a situation, the other spouse can make observations before taking action. So, in this situation, Dad might have observed “DD, you are very upset that mom put your hat up high, aren’t you?……I guess mom was pretty upset, too, to put your hat up there.” This just acknowledges everyone’s feelings. It is that moment of pause, before rushing in to take action. This is a critical role for the not-involved spouse to play – Being the calm voice of reason. Just “observing” will help both the other spouse and the child begin to calm down.
3. Again, before taking action, spouses should always confer. The non-involved spouse always needs to begin with empathy. Dad can give mom a hug and say “Fed up, huh? Want some backup?” If mom agrees, Dad can say softly to her “I think we’ll get more traction if we give her the hat back first.” Mom might disagree, of course, in which case Dad should certainly not get the hat down. Or she might say ok, knowing that she went further than she wanted to.
4. The spouse who is stepping in to lend a hand needs to inform the child about what both parents have decided, rather than pre-empting the other partner. So Dad might say, “DD, your mom and I see how upset you are, and that you want your hat. And, we need to talk about what happened. Come sit on my lap and tell me about it, and Mom will get your hat for you.” So he is less the knight in shining armor riding in to save DD from Mom, than the mediator who is setting up the conversation so both sides can be heard. And he lets Mom restore the hat, instead of taking over and giving it to DD himself, which undermines Mom.
I want to add that in the case where DD walks away with the hat and doesn’t listen or talk, I would move into her space in a friendly way – both parents – and insist, kindly but firmly, on a discussion about what happened. If that is not possible at that moment, then it needs to happen soon after. Otherwise, DD is getting the message that as long as she howls, she gets what she wants, and doesn’t have to listen to her parents’ guidance about it.
Dealing with Defiance
From Lisa
My son (turns 4 in february) has started expressing a more forceful nature with my husband and I over the past few weeks. He will point his finger in our face, and tell us what he is/not going to do, etc. I feel it’s in response to us setting more limits, but perhaps we are not going about it in the best way, i.e. not connecting first. Any tips on how to get back on track? It’s stressful for me, trying to help my son and keep my husband on board with peaceful parenting.
First, you and your husband should know that this is completely normal behavior for a four year old, and there is no need to take dramatic action to teach your son a lesson. Four year olds often hit a difficult stretch where they want more control and get angry when they are treated in what they feel is a less than respectful manner. They also test the limits, so that if they are allowed to treat others disrespectfully, they do. That doesn’t mean they’ll grow up to be axe-murderers, it means they’re four, and they need us to teach them how to manage their feelings responsibly. The key with kids this age is teaching them that while humans may disagree with each other, we can work things out respectfully.
You should also know that four year olds are experimenting with power. In other words, one of their jobs, developmentally speaking, is to figure out how to get what they want from the world (and other people). Our job is to guide them to use their power constructively, rather than to bully.
So here’s the thing you and your husband need to talk about. Every time you use power over your son you are teaching him the exact behavior you’re trying to eliminate. That doesn’t mean you don’t set limits. Of course you must. But you set those limits with empathy. Any punishment — including timeouts — will backfire, by teaching him that more powerful people can push smaller people around. And of course that will make him want to be like the powerful people, which means shaking his finger in your face.
So what should you do when your son shakes his finger in your face? Keep your sense of humor. Remind yourself that he is four. Say, lightly, “I don’t think I want that finger in my face….You must be telling me something important. Please take your finger out of my face and tell me in words. I promise I will listen hard.”
What about when he tells you what he is/is not going to do? Again, don’t take it personally and keep a light touch. (Breathe!) Say “I hear that you aren’t going to take a bath because you want to keep playing, Sweetie. That would be great, wouldn’t it? I see that you’ve built a whole zoo for your tigers, that’s so cool. You could play all night, I bet….And right now is still bathtime, so I do need you to come along to the tub, now….Would you like to be a roaring tiger and chase me up the stairs to the bath?”
1. Acknowledged his statement that he is not taking a bath. He feels heard.
2. Not made him wrong or put him on the defensive, as you would have if you had told him not to tell you what he was going to do/not do.
3. Connected, or “joined” with him by admiring his tiger zoo, so he feels like you’re on his side.
4. Given him his desire via “wish fulfillment.”
5. Refused his offer of a power struggle. (You don’t have to attend every power struggle to which you’re invited!)
6. Set your limit calmly, kindly, clearly, firmly. It’s clear you’re immovable, like the wall. No point in pushing against the wall.
7. Given him a fun way out so he doesn’t feel like he is “giving in.”
8. Given him a chance to be more powerful, even to scare Mommy by being a tiger.
9. Made it more likely that your son will want to cooperate with you, both now and in general.
10. Made it more likely that you’ll all have a peaceful evening.
That’s what I call positive parenting!
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I like the tips on the defiant child. I am experiencing extreme defiance from my 5 year old. He is also snatching and being quite aggressive towards his brother and myself. He started school in September and also his Dad has recently come home after living away from us for 2 years which may be a contributing factor to his emotions. I am really struggling with it and have found myself resorting to the authoritarian style of parenting that I was raised with and it makes me feel terrible. In those situation where he is being completely defiant and we are on a time restraint (ie school, dentist, doctors etc….) I really don’t know what to do – hence I lose my patience. Any help would be gratefuly received!
I really took lots from your last section about Defiance. My son is generally not defiant however I am always looking for ways in which I can enlist his cooperation whilst he still feels like he has choices <3 thank you!
This book looks amazing, one all of us parents shall love to read and read again! The question from Lisa about her four year old is exactly what we are going through with our dear daughter who just turned four last week, ah…Thank you as always Dr. Laura for some wonderful advice.
We have had similar examples in our household of each of these at one time or another… I loved the responses here and so I am jumping at the chance to win a copy of Dr. Markham’s book. Thank you so much for the opportunity!!
This is my favorite quote: You don’t have to attend every power struggle to which you’re invited!” Awesome and hilariously said: she’s keeping it light, just like with the kids.
I really appreciated the part about how to handle a situation when tempers flare. My husband and I can see it in one another but we just haven’t been able to support one another when trying to step in. It’s obvious that our daughter is upset and it’s also obvious that the other parent is upset but this way really acknowledges and honors everyone’s feelings. Our main goal in the past has been to try to get the other parent to calm down and that misses the mark and makes me feel like I’m being talked down to. I can’t wait to try this!
The last question about power struggles and 4-yr olds was most useful to me. We are currently going through the same finger-pointing phase with our 4 year old daughter and it is a huge challenge to keep our cool and stay connected in such situations. The suggestions given were really useful. Thank you!
The defiance section was the most helpful to me. I have a three year old son who is very intelligent and the defiance stage has begun. I do use some of those tactics but the whole conversation really put it in perspective. I cannot wait to read this book and learn more great ideas to use with my son 🙂
i have benefited so much from dr. laura’s writing over the last few years. i’m a single mom raising a son in rc (that was led by patty wipfler) and organize a families of color support group in our community. would love to be able to share the wisdom of your book with our families 🙂
I love the Santa answer! My son turns 3 in February, and we haven’t talked much ab Santa. He’s watched a few shows ab him, and we’ve read a couple books too. He doesn’t say much ab him, but he talks ab how much he loves Christmas! I plan on not over playing the whole Santa thing, but if he asks questions that’s exactly what I was going to do! Ask him what he thinks and not lie ab it!
I just wanted to say, what a fantastic post. The scenario that is best going to help me is the parenting differences. We’re still having issues with parenting differences and my son is 2 now. My husband is slowly starting to understand he doesn’t need to act like a bully, to be a good parent. One thing I’ve found helpful is to clarify when he’s upset what he’s saying. I will ask him if he really thinks spanking is the best option for whatever our son is doing and it makes him stop and think about. That maybe it’s not the best idea to swat our son because he’s pulling the dvd cases out, etc.
I can relate and enjoy any comments on tantrums and how to handle them. I was raised totally different and never really learned how to handle my destructive feelings and I this will not be handed down to my small children. However, it is something I have to deal with on a daily bases. Dr. Laura is a god send. I seem to get an email from here which is directly related to some “issue” I am struggling with. I would be so blessed to have this amazing resource in my home. TKU for this wonderful opportunity. Happy to find you as well.
Thanks for all the tips! Sometimes hard to remember in the moment but these help me be more mindful!
These answers are all great. I especially appreciated the answer about parents who have different approaches, because my daughter and son-in-law are struggling with that. My daughter feels she can’t do the “positive parenting” approach on her own, and her husband doesn’t seem interested in it.
My six year old son is very curious about Santa and getting ever closer to realizing that the story is a “tall-tale” (the way we talk about reality vs. imagination). How do I remain honest with him while asking him not to tell his friends? He’s already blurted out to his Kindergarten class that there is no such thing as the tooth fairy. I don’t want him to dispel the Santa myth for others too.
The last section on defiance really gave me some ideas. I really need to remember I don’t have to attend every power struggle I am invited to! My three year old and I go through that a lot! We have five boys 5 and under so I would love a chance to win the book to learn more!!
My 5 year old has not started questioning yet. However my 11 year old started doubting 2 years ago….
I’ve been struggling with how to talk with my daughter about Santa because I remember feeling lied to and betrayed when I realized he wasn’t “real” in the way that I thought he was. I try never to lie to my child but when discussing my views with my in-laws, it was clear that they value the magical and mysterious. I agree that magic and mystery are beautiful things and I do believe in magic! Your take has really helped me clarify what I want to share and how I want to support my daughter in the development of both her magical and logical mind. Thank you!
I appreciate the tips about Santa, my little guy will be turning 2 and I struggle with the lying about Santa. I haven’t told him anything yet but I also don’t want to ruin the “magic” of Christmas. My step-daughters believe in Santa or else say they still do because they’re playing along and I don’t want to break it to them & ruin the fun but I also don’t want to lie if they start asking questions. They’re 8 and 11. I want them all to know I won’t lie to them. I was around 3 or 4 when I got up to go to the bathroom and saw my mom stuffing stockings. It sticks with me clear as day because it was a huge shock at a young age.
Thank you for the great post. The questions about Santa and about parenting differences were very helpful. Love Aha! Parenting.
Dr Laura’s website is my main parenting resource and so I would love the book! The answer above on 4 year olds and defiance exactly describes what has been happening here in the last couple of weeks so that is very reassuring thank you! x
I am so delighted to discover your facebook page and blog via Ahaparenting.com! I LOVE Dr Laura’s wisdom and compassion – I am very keen to win the copy of her book 🙂
I found the Santa question the most helpful for our family. Like the person asking the question, I want to be truthful with my kids, but they do believe in Santa. I will definitely be using a similar answer when the time comes!
The advice about defiance is what I needed to read most, even though my son is currently five, we’re long not done with subject yet! ;-D (I love Dr Markham’s site, its my go-to location for checking my head, I’m dead curious about the book!)…
I love the advice on disagreeing – we deal with this DAILY 🙂
I found all these questions helpful, especially on Santa as I feel the question will be surfacing in the next year or two. And info on spouses working together is always helpful. I would love to read this book, as my youngest often challenges me with defiance and testing. Thank you.
I’m so glad to have stumbled upon this site! I have a 1.5 yr old who is beginning to be defiant at times and throws quite a few tantrums each day. Today I was told by my son’s day care that he was bullying kids by pushing, bumping, and hitting them all day and had to be given his first “time out” (which just consisted of separating him from the other kids to “calm his body”). Right after he seemed ready to return to playing, he started bullying again. Oh, boy…
I have struggled with stress and controlling my temper with my son, and I can use any tips I can get on how to be a more peaceful, positive parent.
I also really liked the suggestion on how to explain the spirit of Santa, and I’ve bookmarked this page for future use.
I liked Dr Laura’s answer to Lisa’s question about her four year old, I to are (sole) parenting a four year old and the authoritarian mannerisms at the moment are hitting home. It’s always great to read Dr Laura’s advice as for me she seems to always be answering something I’m tackling at the time, I know just how much she’s helped me in the last few years and I’m incredibly grateful for her insightful and understanding manner and her awesome advice. I would absolutely love to win her book:-)
From many various books I have read on the subject of raising children the work of Dr. Laura makes the most sense to me. I like very much the fact that her answers are very detailed and specific, providing a really useful guidance to every day situations.
what i love most about Dr Laura is how she is so accessible to us parents….its not like she jsut published a book and now leaves it up to us…she is with us on this journey and that is comforting…tahnks Dr Laura
For me right now, the answers about the different parenting styles and also about the similar parenting style but with intervention by the other parent were those which resonated most with me.
Ight now, I feel like our parenting challenges and the behaviours we are struggling to cope with from our children are because myself and my husband either don’t have or aren’t implementing the right tools.
In order to help our girls learn, grow, and be the wonderful people I know they are, I need to first find my triggers, my unmet needs, and ensure my DH and I are on the same page or at least have an understanding of each other’s position.
Thanks for the insights and food for thought and tools to improve 🙂
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The holidays have just started here in Australia and I am just about to have a melt down about my daughter having a melt down. I am totally lost on how to deal with her behaviour. I remember my friend liked your site so I have gone to it to get some hints and it has totally helped me at least try one action of positive parenting. My husband is so good at it but I need help and I am sure that your advice is where I will find it .
The bit about defiance was very helpful because it had a sample dialogue and breakdown. My kids aren’t that age yet but I have a nephew who is 4 and going through a defiant stage and now I can see what may be going on in his head when he misbehaves. Thanks!
I really enjoyed this article! I like to Q & A a lot! Thanks for all of your hard work, respect, and encouragement in trying to help us better ourselves as parents!
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Michelle,
When you are under time-restraints, it’s the hardest. By then, you don’t have a lot of options to create a happy ending to the situation. So the best thing is to choose a happier ending much earlier, before you run out of time. For instance, do preventive maintenance and spend daily Special Time with your child. This isn’t just quality time — it’s much more special than that, as explained in Peaceful Parent, Happy Kids, and it always makes kids more willing to cooperate at other times as well. Another way to choose a happier ending earlier is for you to be sure YOU are completely ready to leave the house half an hour before you need to be. That way, you can engage with your child and make it a pleasant interaction because you aren’t stressed out. You can actually connect with him (“Wow, what a cool fort you’re building here…Will you show me around your fort before we have to leave for the doctor’s soon? And then when we come back, maybe I can help you more with it?” You can teach him self management skills (“What do you need to do before we leave the house?”) instead of barking orders. Good luck!
Cindy,
Once you and your six year old have talked about the fact that Santa is not just one person, but everyone can help keep Santa’s spirit alive by giving to each other, you can ask him how that feels to him. Most likely, he will feel a bit sad. Empathize:
“Yes, I was sad when I was your age and I realized there was no one person who was Santa…It is such a wonderful idea…I love that we can keep his spirit alive, but it’s a magical idea that we all love, especially children….Do most of the kids you know believe that Santa is one real person?….Do the kids at school ever talk about it?….Does anyone say Santa isn’t real?…This sounds a little bit like what happened in your kindergarten class when you all talked about the Tooth Fairy and you told the kids there was no such thing….Were some of the kids upset about that?…What happened?…Were you glad you said it, in the end, or not?….What would happen if you sat there and the kids were talking about Santa and you didn’t say anything?…That would be really hard, wouldn’t it? Are there ever times when it’s a good idea not to say exactly what you’re thinking?….Do you always have to tell other people when they’re wrong?…..I think that every child should be allowed to believe in Santa being a real person until they are ready to ask their parents…What do you think? Would you have liked it if another kid told you Santa was not real when you were little? Is this something you should let other kids find out from their parents?”
You get the idea. As always, exploring with our child how he feels, how it will be in that situation and how he might choose to act is the most effective way to influence his behavior. Good luck!